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[mholka]

I have a 5 month old Black Lab named Roxy! She is the newest member of our family.

Anyway about 2 weeks ago we noticed she was developing a small lump on the underside of her jaw. In just a couple of days it grew to the size of a walnut. It feels very hard and a little elongated. It does not seem to hurt even when we touch it. She is eating fine and in good spirits.

Anyway we had her at the vet and they prescribed antibiotics for her. She is completing her second week and it has not changed in size or hardness at all.

I am taking her back in to the vet tomorrow but we are all really scared! The breeder gave us a 2 year health guarantee. I sent him an email to inform him about what is going on. (He checks in every couple weeks to see how Roxy is doing!) He also knows our Vet.

So we are really spooked and I am losing sleep over this.

Has anyone heard of or experienced something like this? I have searched the INTERNET until I am blue in the face. Most all of the posts seem to describe a soft movable lump not hard like Roxy's.

Anyway, tomorrow I am not leaving the Vet's until they give me a confirmed diagnosis.

We got her to breed and become a member of the family. She has a very distinguished A.K.C. pedigree and I also wanted to train her to hunt. If it is something really bad, what would you all do? I am not sure I could give her back to the breeder and ask for my money back because she has become one of us!

Oh, what to do!?! I have a really bad feeling about this!

[mica]

I have a 5 month old Black Lab named Roxy! She is the newest member of our family.

Anyway about 2 weeks ago we noticed she was developing a small lump on the underside of her jaw. In just a couple of days it grew to the size of a walnut. It feels very hard and a little elongated. It does not seem to hurt even when we touch it. She is eating fine and in good spirits.

Anyway we had her at the vet and they prescribed antibiotics for her. She is completing her second week and it has not changed in size or hardness at all.

I am taking her back in to the vet tomorrow but we are all really scared! The breeder gave us a 2 year health guarantee. I sent him an email to inform him about what is going on. (He checks in every couple weeks to see how Roxy is doing!) He also knows our Vet.

So we are really spooked and I am losing sleep over this.

Has anyone heard of or experienced something like this? I have searched the INTERNET until I am blue in the face. Most all of the posts seem to describe a soft movable lump not hard like Roxy's.

Anyway, tomorrow I am not leaving the Vet's until they give me a confirmed diagnosis.

We got her to breed and become a member of the family. She has a very distinguished A.K.C. pedigree and I also wanted to train her to hunt. If it is something really bad, what would you all do? I am not sure I could give her back to the breeder and ask for my money back because she has become one of us!

Oh, what to do!?! I have a really bad feeling about this!

so sorry to hear this.. I cant offer any help. I am stumped on this one.. if you got her to breed from and maybe get titled then I would be looking at getting mioney back.. but I know that's easier sed than done once you have a companion. hope all is well at the vets and that a simple procedure can fix it

[nate73]

I have a 5 month old Black Lab named Roxy! She is the newest member of our family.

Anyway about 2 weeks ago we noticed she was developing a small lump on the underside of her jaw. In just a couple of days it grew to the size of a walnut. It feels very hard and a little elongated. It does not seem to hurt even when we touch it. She is eating fine and in good spirits.

Anyway we had her at the vet and they prescribed antibiotics for her. She is completing her second week and it has not changed in size or hardness at all.

I am taking her back in to the vet tomorrow but we are all really scared! The breeder gave us a 2 year health guarantee. I sent him an email to inform him about what is going on. (He checks in every couple weeks to see how Roxy is doing!) He also knows our Vet.

So we are really spooked and I am losing sleep over this.

Has anyone heard of or experienced something like this? I have searched the INTERNET until I am blue in the face. Most all of the posts seem to describe a soft movable lump not hard like Roxy's.

Anyway, tomorrow I am not leaving the Vet's until they give me a confirmed diagnosis.

We got her to breed and become a member of the family. She has a very distinguished A.K.C. pedigree and I also wanted to train her to hunt. If it is something really bad, what would you all do? I am not sure I could give her back to the breeder and ask for my money back because she has become one of us!

Oh, what to do!?! I have a really bad feeling about this! <img src="http://www.blacklabr..._DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="sad.gif" />

I do not know if you are still a member, but I am hoping you will respond. I have a 6 month old Chocolate Lab that has the same thing. Everything I research points to Osteosorcosis (bone cancer). I am very concerned and I was hoping you may give me an update as to the outcome of your situation. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[Kurt]

Unfortunately, Mholka has not returned to visit since two days after he/she left the original message. So it has been 4 years since the original message was left here.

So I imagine that we will never know what was wrong with Roxy and what the outcome was.

I really wish people who ask questions would let us know via a followup on what is going on with their dogs.

The main thing with cancer is dogs is to get the dog to a canine oncologist as fast as you can. The earlier you detect the cancer and start treatment, the better your dogs chances will be. Cancer in dogs is so virulent that you can go from the start of a small bump to death in as little as 3 days.

Our own dog, Brandy (l;ab/golden mix) came down with cancer almost 2 years ago. I had her in an oncologists office the day after a bump formed. She was put on chemo therapy for 6 weeks, which she flew through without any side effects at all and is still cancer free. And she had a level 3 mast cell tumor.

Always have hope!

[MoodyAirConditioning]

Unfortunately, Mholka has not returned to visit since two days after he/she left the original message. So it has been 4 years since the original message was left here.

So I imagine that we will never know what was wrong with Roxy and what the outcome was.

I really wish people who ask questions would let us know via a followup on what is going on with their dogs.

The main thing with cancer is dogs is to get the dog to a canine oncologist as fast as you can. The earlier you detect the cancer and start treatment, the better your dogs chances will be. Cancer in dogs is so virulent that you can go from the start of a small bump to death in as little as 3 days.

Our own dog, Brandy (l;ab/golden mix) came down with cancer almost 2 years ago. I had her in an oncologists office the day after a bump formed. She was put on chemo therapy for 6 weeks, which she flew through without any side effects at all and is still cancer free. And she had a level 3 mast cell tumor.

Always have hope!

[MoodyAirConditioning]

My 6 month old Labrador has the same problem, they are going to biopsy it today and if they cant find anything out from that they will take some more X rays. I will post the results when i find out.

[Kurt]

Biopsies take time, and sometimes time is not on your side.
I would make an appointment to see a canine oncologist TODAY! I wouldn't mess around with your veterinarian.
Time is ticking. If this is cancer, the longer you wait the less likely for a good result.

For all lab owners, I recommend a weekly pat down of your dog to see if any bumps have appeared. Sometimes it may just be a fatty cell tumor which is harmless and other times it could be the start of something that could turn into something. That's what happened with our Brandy. The vet noticed a teeny tiny spot on her eyelid that was only about the size of a head of a pin. At the time she recommended having it removed during a teeth cleaning which was scheduled about 6 months down the road.

Two weeks later we woke up to find the bump had gone from the size of a head of a pin to the size of a golf ball literally overnight!

Our complete story from the time of the first appearance of the lump to the final good result is listed in a thread in the Dog Health section of this website. I think it's a must read for all dog owners. It gives you an excellent picture of what goes on with a cancer diagnosis. BTW, our Brandy is still with us at age 13 and going strong!

[MoodyAirConditioning]

Wow, great advice Kurt, the biopsy that was taken at my Vets office was not able to be used because they did not go deep enough and they are pretty sure that they have it nailed down
The suspected Diagnosis is craniomandibular osteopathy-previous biopsy nondiagnostic, cannot completely rule out osteoma, ameloblastoma, or other process. The mass was 6.8 x 3.2.

[Kurt]

Are you dealing with an oncologist or your vet With something like this I would really prefer to have a definite diagnosis rather than a suspected one this this were my dog.

For those who don't know what craniomandibular osteopathy is, it's an abnormal bone growth that pops up on a pups lower jaw. It is usually not cancerous and can be treated. When the dog ages it can totally disappear.

May I ask where did you obtain this dog from? The reason I ask is that this condition is hereditary. And if you bought your pup from a breeder I would call them immediately with this and remind them that the dog that had the pups needs to be neutered as well as all the pups from the litter. It's the only way to stop this disease. Ethical breeders know this.

Here is a link to an explanation about it.

[MoodyAirConditioning]

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Are you dealing with an oncologist or your vet With something like this I would really prefer to have a definite diagnosis rather than a suspected one this this were my dog.

For those who don't know what craniomandibular osteopathy is, it's an abnormal bone growth that pops up on a pups lower jaw. It is usually not cancerous and can be treated. When the dog ages it can totally disappear.

May I ask where did you obtain this dog from? The reason I ask is that this condition is hereditary. And if you bought your pup from a breeder I would call them immediately with this and remind them that the dog that had the pups needs to be neutered as well as all the pups from the litter. It's the only way to stop this disease. Ethical breeders know this.

Here is a link to an explanation about it.

[MoodyAirConditioning]

I added the report above as a pdf. I notified the breeder but all he said is "thats weird".

[Kurt]

I would respond to the breeder with "you know what you are supposed to do with dogs that carry hereditary diseases, don't you?". And if he doesn't know, I'd tell him all parties to this litter need to be neutered to prevent this from spreading and if he doesn't follow the proper protocol then he shouldn't be in the breeding business. It sounds to me like he's in it for the money.....I'd also ask for a partial refund on the price you paid for the dog. Fifty percent sounds like a good figure to start with.

I know Dr. Jones from previous visits to Gulf Coast. Thank you for sending that diagnosis/report. You have taken your dog to one of the best places in Houston. The only other canine oncologist I know better is a Dr. Steven Susneck
in Spring Branch. At Gulf Coast you'll get the best possible care for your dog. You made an excellent choice.

I wish you the best with the health of your pup. Hopefully in time this will all rectify itself. And I'd keep a close eye on that growth too.