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#1 Peter F.

 

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        Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:01 PM

Hi,

 

I'm new to this site, and like many of you I'm sure very happy to have found it.

I took my 4 yr. old BL Harley to have his hips/back legs  x-rayed. Well they said he has 50% hip dysplasia and the beginning of arthtitis. He is absolutely insane about chasing a ball and never has a problem running, but I noticed about 6 mos. ago he was having trouble getting up.

Unfourtanetly, we lost our house to Sandy and have moved in with my sis family which is more than an hour from the ocean BTW, he loves to swim as much as chase a ball. It's going to be tough getting him to the beach every nite like we used to...well except on the weekends.

We set up an appt. with a specialist in 2 weeks but wanted to know if anyone had any advice? He's my wife &  mine baby so we will do whatever needs to keep him healthy....even if that means surgery. We would appreciate any advise on that also.

 

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Peter, Jess & Harley



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        Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:10 PM

It sounds like you are doing everything right so far. Swimming is the best exercise for him as it is low impact and doens't hurt the hips. The rear legs tend to athrophy form this condition and swimming will help maintain the muscle mass of the rear legs.

 

Hip Dysplasia is a hereditary condition. You can't get it by playing with the dog when he is a pup. There are lots of people out there saying "You dog shouldn't run until he's a year old because he'll get hip dysplasia." That's total BS. You dog either has the gene for it or doesn't .

 

 Proper breeders check for hip dysplasia in a dog's line before breeding and they x-ray the potential dogs before breeding. Remember since the hip & hip sockets don't reach full maturity until a dog is about 2 years old the dog that will be bred will have to be older than that, just to be sure.  All dogs that have hip dysplasia should be neutered to prevent passing this disabling problem to other dogs.

 

There have been remarkable improvements in the care of dogs with this problem. I would contact a canine orthopedic specialist to find out what your options are. In the meantime make sure you dog has one or two of those doggie "ortopedic" foam beds to lay on. This will reduce the amount of pain he has. And this is a very painful condition. We are all sorry to hear of this.

 

Please keep us posted about what you learn along the way.

 

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        Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:28 PM

Thank you Kurt, really appreciate your response...as I said we'll do anything to keep our best fried around and pain free. Just found out today we'll be moving in with another family member who is very close to the ocean so Harley will be getting plenty of swimming shortly. Do you think I can still play ball with him, he runs like he doesn't have a problem....just when he tries to get up he struggles.

Does anyone know about any vitamins or something we can give him that may help.....it breaks my heart to see him struggle to get up.

What about hip surgery, has anyone ever had this done....good or bad? Money is no object when it comes to my buddy so if this will help please let me know your experience...I really appreciate any advice.

 

Thanks again.!!!!!



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        Posted 10 April 2013 - 11:49 AM

Each dog is an independent case from one another when it comes to hip displaysia and must be evaluated according to their own condition. Have you been to a canine orthopedic veterinarian yet?

 

What hip diosplaysia actually is that the ball of the femur bone does not fit well into the hip socket.

This can cause imflammation of the joint, which leads to pain and arthritis. There are procedures

from giving your dog supplements to sanding of the ball to make it fit better into the socket. Hip

relacements are also done in severe cases.

 

I know for arthritis we have used a product called "Cosequin DS" to our 14 year old lab. She was having some difficulty getting up from our marble foyer floors. After 6 weeks on the Consequin, she was able to get up more easily. It's available in most pet stores and even at Walmart. Our vet was the one who recommended it to us.

 

I have another question for you. When your dog is standing up on all four legs are his back legs L & R across from each other, or are then in front of each other?  How are his rear leg muscles? Are the normal of rather thin?



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        Posted 10 April 2013 - 04:43 PM

I've a friend who has a very arthritic dog, She gives him glucosamine per her vet, regular human glucosamine from the drug store, I would ask your vet about that. 

 

So sorry to hear about your dog, It is so hard to watch them struggle and to feel helpless.  Sounds like you are on the right path to helping the situation, though.  I'll keep Harley in my thoughts (and you)



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        Posted 12 April 2013 - 03:29 PM

Thank you both...

 

We have an appt. with a specialist next week, hopefully we find out more about his condition. I will ask about the 2 products you both suggested...hear what the dr. has to say.

Harley stands normal L & R,  and he is in pretty good shape, his legs are muscular not thin at all..I'll try and post a pic or 2..

 

Thanks again and I will keep you updated.

 

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        Posted 12 April 2013 - 05:17 PM

 It's nice that you are being proactive with Harley's hip problem. Most of the time people wait until the dog can barely walk before they do something in the way of treatment. It's always easier to work from a preventive stance than a recouperative one.  Since you are starting early in the hip dysplasia game you will have a better chance of having Harley live a more comfortable life.

 

 BTW, the Cosequin DS uses Glucosimine as it's main ingredient.

 

 Please do let us know what the specialist has to say. Good Luck to all of you!



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        Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:18 PM

I give my LuLu the Triple Strength Joint Max chewy tabs. I get it from EntirelyPets.com. She gets one in AM and one in PM. I also gave it to my last dog, Perry. Both reacted great to having this added to their diets and they like the taste. Best of luck with Harley.



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        Posted 07 May 2013 - 02:26 PM

Hi all and thank you,

 

We took Harley to the orthopedic specialist, he put him on Rimadel and so far so good. We have to bring him in for blood work in a few weeks to make sure his kidneys/liver is fine. That worries me, has anyone had experience with Rimadel? The dr. said he would not do surgery at this time, he is not that bad yet. He suggested stem cell therapy if the rimadel is not the answer.Thanks again and I'll keep you updated.        Peter



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        Posted 07 May 2013 - 10:55 PM

I've used Rimadyl on our 14 year old lab for about 4 years now. 75mg per day. She's doing fine. We also give her a vitamin supplement  Milk Thistle to protect her liver. The most common problem with Rimadyl is since it is an NSAID it can cause stomach bleeding if it is not monitored carefully.

 

With the Milk Thistle buy a bottle in a health food store with the smallest pills you can find and give your dog 1/2 of a capsule every other day. That will protect the liver from the Rimadyl. Also never give your dog aspirin, baby aspirin or any other pain relief while using Rimadyl. The Rimadyl contains all you need.

 

I recently saw a show that discussed stem cell surgery for dogs with hip problems. It seems to be pretty successful. What they do is extract your dogs own stem cells from body fat and then reinject them into the dog at a later date. A few months later the dog starts getting better.  The nice thing about this is that there are usually no complications and the treatment can be repeated as needed. It looks very promising.

 

So far it sounds like you have your options lined up. And that great. Thank you again for keeping us all posted about this as I am sure that someday in the future another reader will be in the same boat and can use your experience to their advantage.



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        Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:38 AM

Thanks again Kurt, I got the Milk Thistle and will give him 1/2 capsule every other day. I have to say Harley is much better since taking the Rimadyl, we're playing ball everyday and he's been swimming in the ocean. I keep the ball playing to 5 mins. but he swims for 20-30mins every nite. The Stem cell surgery seems a much better alternative to hip replacement. We'll see how his blood work comes back after a month of taking the pills. I was told to check his bowel movements, look for black with specks of red....so far, so good.

 

 

Thank you all, I learned a lot from tis site.

 

 

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        Posted 10 May 2013 - 09:54 PM

I have seen Rimadyl work wonders for dogs. We used it with our Brandy for a few years. We found that sometimes she would become lethargic with the Rimadyl. We got better results from the Consequen DS long term. But Rimadyl does do a great job on most dogs.

 

I am glad to hear that Harley is doing much better and is getting the proper exercise. You did a great job with this. Just because a dog has hip problems doesn't mean you have to give up on them.  It's remarkable what treatments are available today.



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        Posted 17 August 2017 - 06:58 PM

Hi Everyone! Haven't been here for a couple years now but today I thought it may be fun to get caught up on all the going ons with all of you. When I first joined the  site, I had a beautiful blacklab named Jed. After many years of enjoyment with him we had to say goodbye to him as he was 13 years old. For those of you that have dealt with the loss of pet it can be overwhelming. But after a year without a dog , we welcomed a new member, new blacklab puppy, to our family, last year. His name is Kody. He is 1.5 years old now and the day we bought him home he was the sweetest little pup of 8 weeks old. He is such a great dog. Will post pics in the future. :) 








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