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        Posted 02 January 2007 - 11:21 AM

I have searched high and low on the web and can find no site that advises me on the following so I thought I would share this with you all and see if anyone can shed some light on the problem...

Tessa loves having her chest rubbed and will drop on to her back in a flash. When she did this earlier on this afternoon, I bent down to give her the usual rub and noticed a milk like substance seeping from 3 of her nipples. Now Tessa is getting on a bit (10) and there is no possiility she could of been with a male dog (all dogs in the vicinity have been neutered).
She is not in season, her next heat is due in March.
I spoke to my mother who told me this could have happened before and I haven't notice it until now or she may be haing a phantom pregnancy.
She has had swollen nipples since her last litter 5 years ago but she is no more swollen than usual.

Any advice/info on the above would be greatly appreciated.
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        Posted 02 January 2007 - 11:44 AM

Sorry Carolyne, I really do not know. And I could not find anything either. I would give your vet a call ASAP and see what they say. Tessa is getting on in years and it might me doggy menopause, if there is such a thing.
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        Posted 02 January 2007 - 12:43 PM

I agree with Karen --- her hormones may be out of whack due to the change of life --- if the substance does not smell foul, and there is no redness or swelling, I wouldn't worry about it.. Is she cranky and tearful and unusually warm? smile.gif
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        Posted 02 January 2007 - 01:34 PM

id put her down to hormones if she is getting on a bit in doggy years, just take her the vets.. she might be having a hot flush smile.gif

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        Posted 02 January 2007 - 06:55 PM

from my reading. I know dogs don't go through a change in life and or menopause. Could just be a hormone imbalance.. or something.. I would check with the vet asap. In people milk in the nipples is one of the ways a woman will realize she is pregnant.. how I figured out I was pregnant with Rory. I was stopping the pumping (breast pump) and noticed the amount was way more than a previous time's.. and thought UH OH..and learned later that day.. I was pregnant again.. when you start to stop lactating.. it's a sure fire way to get pregnant again if your not careful.. which after all the trouble of trying to get pregnant with my 1st son.. I was fine with having another kid.. and being done with it all in a shorter time period.. than waiting 4 years between kids.. let us know what the vet says.. I am interested if it is something else.. and if I need to worry about Sadie having the same sort of problemin later years since she had pregnancies also.

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        Posted 03 January 2007 - 02:06 AM

QUOTE (Carolyne @ Jan 2 2007, 08:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have searched high and low on the web and can find no site that advises me on the following so I thought I would share this with you all and see if anyone can shed some light on the problem...

Tessa loves having her chest rubbed and will drop on to her back in a flash. When she did this earlier on this afternoon, I bent down to give her the usual rub and noticed a milk like substance seeping from 3 of her nipples. Now Tessa is getting on a bit (10) and there is no possiility she could of been with a male dog (all dogs in the vicinity have been neutered).
She is not in season, her next heat is due in March.
I spoke to my mother who told me this could have happened before and I haven't notice it until now or she may be haing a phantom pregnancy.
She has had swollen nipples since her last litter 5 years ago but she is no more swollen than usual.

Any advice/info on the above would be greatly appreciated.


Hi Carolyne - I am not an expert on this, because I own a 10 year old female Fox terrier, who was spayed before she came into her first heat ( 6 mons old). But I think I may have come up with some info I found on the web relating to what they referr to as "false pregnancy" in female canines.the following link http://www.marvistav..._pregnancy.html, may be of some help to you. From what I have read on some other links this is not an uncommon thing for them to go through.




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        Posted 03 January 2007 - 05:37 AM

Thanks for the above link. My mother thought it was a phantom pregnancy. It all makes good sense although in the text it talks about mating which I know has not happened with Tessa.
Anyway, I'm going to give it a week and if it gets any worse I'll pay a visit to the vet. She's alright in herself, a bit 'clingy' following me everywhere but apart from that she's ok.

Thanks for your advice guys.
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        Posted 03 January 2007 - 07:38 PM

(in sorta related news) Sadie was acting a little wierd yesterday. We went out on a walk in the park. We have taken her there a number of times. She usually is quiet and reserved and just walks calmly and follows along with Duke.. doing that cute little bump thing where they bump into each other as they walk.. Well yesterday she was not herself or something.. she jumped up and reared up and barked at other dogs walking past us like a wild rabid wolf or something.. it was ferocious sounding.. She jumped in front of Duke while doing this.. and he was behind her while she barked wildly.

I wonder if maybe she is nearing the heat cycle or something else is going on? Like she is getting back her spunk. A dog when it is rehomed often times seems a little quieter and depressed.. until the new situation proves to be good for her. She has never done this before.. I first thought she was doing it becasue the dog was small and maybe a little strange looking to her.. it was a pekinese.. thought maybe she thought it was a cat or another animal.. or maybe she was protecting her territory aka Duke and Me and the rest of the family from this other dog.. But she did it each time we saw another dog and their family.

So I wonder if dogs get a little moody just before their heat cycle or something.. or maybe she didn't get enough love from me yesterday.. She was very very excited to be there and was pulling me rather hard.. maybe there were lots of smells there.. it's huge park that gets lots of dogs walked there..
I dunno.. if she is entering her hear cycle we will know fairly soon I gather.

Sadie seems fine today.. I am headed out to take her on a evening walk.. think I will just take one dog at a time.. easier to control them.
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        Posted 04 January 2007 - 11:13 AM

Well I've had to make an appointment with the vet for tomorrow as Tessa now has an unsightly discharge below. I noticed when she was begging for Matt's breakfast. Also, the number of leaking nipples has increased (apologies for those who find this a little grose). We're going tomorrow at 5pm so will update you all later on in the evening.
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        Posted 04 January 2007 - 10:31 PM

How can anyone who owns a dog still find anything gross?
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        Posted 05 January 2007 - 12:42 PM

QUOTE (pam @ Jan 4 2007, 10:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How can anyone who owns a dog still find anything gross?

Husbands that have never really owned a dog before, let alone a puppy. I can not tell you all the times that I have heard..........."EWWWW".
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        Posted 05 January 2007 - 01:32 PM

You're right! My significant other stepped in some pee and threw his socks away! He's getting better --- he'll still throw the ball when it's covered in frothy drool!
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        Posted 05 January 2007 - 02:08 PM

I took Tessa to the vets at tea-time and she has confirmed Tessa is suffering a phantom pregnancy. There is no real concern at this time but I am to keep a watchful eye on her to see if she becomes withdrawn, starts drinking more, suffers any worsening discharge. The vet couldn't say how long it'll last so let's hope it ends soon and she gets back to normal!
She was an absolute angel whilst she as being prodded and poked so on the way back we stopped at the local pet store and I spent a fortune on her! Chews, biscuits and I even managed to get hold of an 'AirDog' toy (Difficult to get over here).
Thanks for all the advice I've recieved xxx
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        Posted 05 January 2007 - 02:30 PM

Glad to hear Tessa is ok and it isn't anything terribly serious or dangerous for her.

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        Posted 05 January 2007 - 07:04 PM

Glad to hear Tessa is doing ok. I've never seen a dog with a phanton pregnancy. Did the vet happen to mention why it would happen. We had thought Sadie has this.. since she looked so pregnant when we first got her. But it was the overweight thing.. and she is fine.. she lost 2 pounds.. and I need to go and see if she has lost anymore. We are slowly switching her to the wellness dry and a little canned mixed in. Let me tell you.. the wellness low fat LOOKS really looks and feels lowfat.. very dry to the touch.. I wouldn't eat it if It was my choice of food. So I bought a couple cans of the senior version of wellness so she can have something kinda tasty added in.


I was a little squeamish when picking up the poop during our walks.. at first.. (I can't tell you many baby diapers I have changed.. prolly a million or so Was a nanny for years even b4 kids) but still took me a little getting used to to be picking it up once again..totally silly I know.. And I worked at a vet clinic for years and can't tell you how many times I was peed on accidentally or stepped in something.. I'm gotten over it now tho. Sadie drools a bit more than Duke does.. and it's nothing to me now to get drooled on.. I stepped in something last nite when walking.. wasn't from my dog's.. we pick our poop up.. it didn't bother me.. just annoying.. that someone else doesn't pick up after their pets. It's $50 fine here...course a cop would have to fine you first. I know they have much better things to do in their time on duty here in this city. My husband didn't grow up with pets. He had a time getting used to the baby poop..and I laughed at him so many times.. when he missed.. he doesn't seem phased by the dog poo tho or any other doggy grossness..

I've got a special old jacket for walking the dogs.. they are learning what it's for when I put it on.
Now since the poop incident.. I've got shoes to go with it.. smile.gif
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        Posted 05 January 2007 - 08:58 PM

What a relief to find out that it is nothing serious. I am glad to hear that she is going to be okay!
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        Posted 08 January 2007 - 04:27 PM

Just an update to say things are roughly the same with Tessa's phantom. Her tummy has got a lot more swollen in the past few days and she's still leaking but is her normal soppy self.

Ps: Suzanne, she's pierced the AirDog already. She loves it though and when I pick it up, I have to fetch a cloth and dry my hands it's covered in that much slobber!!
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