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#1 Martlet

 

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        Posted 23 December 2006 - 08:42 PM

After much searching, calling many breeders, looking at puppies, and following referrals (thank you Heather), we finally found our little girl.

Here's Maggie:

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        Posted 23 December 2006 - 09:45 PM

Oh she is just BEAUTIFUL!!! Hooray --- another puppy to watch grow up!

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        Posted 24 December 2006 - 02:49 AM

Good choice, good luck and good gracious - what a pretty little girl!

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        Posted 24 December 2006 - 11:03 AM

OOOOH She is just gorgeous!!! Congratulations!!! Looking forward to seeing her grow !!!!

Have fun and Happy Holidays!!

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        Posted 25 December 2006 - 09:01 PM

She is a good looking pup, I hope your holidays go well and happy training.
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        Posted 26 December 2006 - 12:02 AM

QUOTE (Martlet @ Dec 23 2006, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
After much searching, calling many breeders, looking at puppies, and following referrals (thank you Heather), we finally found our little girl.

Here's Maggie:


Oh how cute. She is adorable. Look how tiny her feet are.........not for long.
How old is she? She looks like she is around 6 weeks. Pic like this make my MLS (multiple lab syndrome) kick in. She looks like a cuddlier too. Looking forward to many many pictures.
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        Posted 26 December 2006 - 08:20 AM

QUOTE (KarenM @ Dec 26 2006, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh how cute. She is adorable. Look how tiny her feet are.........not for long.
How old is she? She looks like she is around 6 weeks. Pic like this make my MLS (multiple lab syndrome) kick in. She looks like a cuddlier too. Looking forward to many many pictures.



She is 6 weeks. Her birthday is Nov. 10th. Which brings me to another question:

Growing up, we never adopted pups younger than 8 weeks. Since we've taken her home, two people (including my mother who used to run a shelter in another state) said it was illegal to advertise them before 6 weeks or adopt them before 8 weeks.

Huh? I see breeders advertise litters before they are born. I also have several books that say 6 weeks is a great time to take them home. Which is the truth?

She seems fine. She's social, playful, eats, crates all night without an "accident" and only cries for a few minutes when I first put her in. Granted, it's only been a few days, but she seems fine.

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        Posted 26 December 2006 - 10:03 AM

I've always read that after 8 weeks was the best time for them to be taken from their mommy and added into a human pack. I don't think it's illegal to take them before that. I think it has to do with Akc registrations.. if the dog's are to be used for show and or breeding and comformation etc.. then 8 weeks is the earliest. The 8 weeks is the standard because it gives the dog time to realize it is still a dog and bond with the dog pack and the mom.. and to learn the appropriate doggy behaviours it needs to know prior to leaving the dog pack and being accepted lovingly into a human pack. The following website goes over this with way more detail than I ever thought possible.

http://www.ccndr.org...ption/puppy.htm (this is about northern sled dogs.. so some of it might be not applicable here.. but all dogs are pack animals.. so some issues might be the same or similiar)


I don't know much about Ma laws on animal adoptions.. never looked into it. I do know we follow lots of Ca laws...on child safety acts etc. Ca is far and away more researched and front runners into child laws.
When is comes to safety with kid toys and car seats, Europe and Cali are the ones to watch and follow along with. When my kids were little babies, I wouldn't buy just any old plastic toy made in china.. all their toys came from Haba out of Germany. Since they were putting them in their mouth.. they had nothing but wooden toys coloured with vegetable dyes and polished with beeswax.. the ASTM equivilant in Europe is much better than here in the States. We have recenlty gotten better here and I believe phalates in children's toys are outlawed now. Still.. plastic comes from petroleum...your child is putting it in his or her mouth. I will err on the safety side and go with wooden toys for wee ones. Getting back to the dogs... Duke found one of our Haba toys and chewed it the other day.. he loved it.. it's destroyed.. so wooden doesn't work for dogs.. otherwise..


I think when it comes to adopting a puppy that would have been put to sleep..or adopting it to a family.. I think the Humane organizations and lawmakers would rather you adopt the dog.. Your saving a life rather than destroying yet another dog. I say lawmakers.. would rather it.. because Our country alone spends 2 billion dollars to round up,house, and kill said dogs. So lawmakers would rather you adopted the dogs a little too early than put them to sleep.. the money can go to better things.. such as innaugural parties..??? wink.gif

You might have to work a little harder with your pup.. I would socialize her as soon as possible and if you don't have a doggy mentor for her to grow up with.. then take her round to see as many dogs in different situations as possible.. after she has shots and immunity built up of course. One of the many reasons I wanted to keep Sadie was she has some good influences on Duke. She(she was a breeder dog and had several litters since she has this in her past she is an excellent dog for kids..they can climb all over her.. she loves it) will get inbetween my kids and Duke if he is angry at them for stepping on his toes or taking his toys.. etc.. He is still a pup and is heading to adulthood so he is going through the whole.. mental process.. and sometimes he will yip and snap at the kids if they bother him or scare him when he wasn't ready for them.. Sadie will jump up and get between them if that happens..I also get up and growl at him and tell him no.. It's not Duke's fault that he does this. He will be peacefully snoozing in the playroom and the kids will run over to him wanting to hug him.. and scare the heck out of him.. if he had been in the pack situation.. and this happened it would have been because a dog wanted to start something with him.. or because the pack was moving and he needed to be woken up. So he is on edge...when that happens.. cause his past haunts him a bit still. I think it's going to take him a year or so.. to put it behind him and leave it there. Both he and Sadie make sad whining noises in their sleep from time to time.. wonder what they are dreaming about. I have gone over to the crate and just talked soothingly to them till they stop.. now.. I just quietly say something nice to them from the bed.. "it's ok guys.. no boogymen here" or something like that.. just to reassure them.. and so they know they are loved. And that someone is there.. watching over them.

I'm finding it a wonderful experience.. I am enjoying having dogs again. It's lots of mental work and learning for me too. I feel like I have to really get inside the dogs mind to learn how to fix a situation or to solve a connundrum that they pose for me.. but mostly it's just wonderful having two dogs living with us.. it feels so right.. like it's supposed to be this way.. like something before was missing..and knowing that cavemen used to live amongst dogs and that people did just this for thousands of years.. must be something in my genes.. that makes it work for me.. I've never been this happy in my life. Feels like we are a pack already.
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        Posted 26 December 2006 - 01:00 PM

QUOTE (Martlet @ Dec 26 2006, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She is 6 weeks. Her birthday is Nov. 10th. Which brings me to another question:

Growing up, we never adopted pups younger than 8 weeks. Since we've taken her home, two people (including my mother who used to run a shelter in another state) said it was illegal to advertise them before 6 weeks or adopt them before 8 weeks.

Huh? I see breeders advertise litters before they are born. I also have several books that say 6 weeks is a great time to take them home. Which is the truth?

She seems fine. She's social, playful, eats, crates all night without an "accident" and only cries for a few minutes when I first put her in. Granted, it's only been a few days, but she seems fine.



I think it might be the state. I live in MI and picked up Toby the day he turned 6 weeks. He is a very adjusted dog. When we take him out and to the stores he is great around other dogs. Sasha on the other hand goes bonkers around other dogs. Toby is also registered and we plan on breading him.....he is a very handsome pooch. Make sure she is socialized allot around other people and especially around other animals and I think she should be fine. It looks like she is bonding with you great. I love the picture of her laying on top of (Your?) leg.

My vet also new that I had him at six weeks and did not say a thing, so it might be just some states. I think if I had puppies myself (my dog that is had them.....ha ha) I would want to keep them to 8 weeks just so that I could cuddle with them more. I also think you have to know the breeder. Do they just want to bread them and get them out asap?

I would not worry about it. She is the cutest thing. And I know you are giving her lots and lots of love. I bet she had a great Christmas.
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        Posted 26 December 2006 - 02:51 PM

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It looks like she is bonding with you great. I love the picture of her laying on top of (Your?) leg.



That was her first night here. She wouldn't stay off me. Now she's better. She still likes to be around me, but can't be bothered to get up from her nap to follow me if I leave the room for a bit.

I did learn a valuable lesson this morning:

When it's raining out and I take her to "do her thing", then don't run inside right after she does "Number 1", because "Number 2" will come on your kitchen floor.

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        Posted 26 December 2006 - 07:18 PM

OH what a CUTIE!!!!! I could just eat her up! She is a beautiful puppy! Congrats to you!
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        Posted 28 December 2006 - 11:11 AM

She is a little darling. I have a Maggie too. She is 2 years old though. I wouldn't worry too much about taking her at 6 weeks. Another member of this site, Daly, raised her little angel from day 1 because the mother wouldn't nurse any of her pups. She has grown into a beautiful well adjusted pup. Please post lots of pictures so we can watch her grow.
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        Posted 29 October 2015 - 01:36 PM

I'm sad to say we lost Maggie this morning.  She was just shy of her 9th birthday.  During the past 9 years we've been inseparable.  It's very rare to see a picture of me without her somewhere in it.   She was around for the birth of my boys, loved them unconditionally and looked out for them with all her being.  When working in the yard, she'd only leave my side to check on the boys or if she heard my wife's car coming down the long dirt road, then she'd run to the end of the driveway to chase her car up to the house just to be the first to say hello.

 

We dropped her off last night to have an obstruction removed, which had happened several times previously without incident (She liked to eat things.  Anything.  It didn't matter what.  We gave her a dog bed once and she ate that.  5 pounds of bedding were removed from her stomach.  Usually, she stuck to socks, though).   At ten minutes of three this morning my phone rang.  The surgery was complicated because they found tumors blocking part of the stomach, issues with her pancreas, and other things that were unknown, even though she'd just had a check up.   They wanted permission to put her down, because they didn't think she could be saved.

 

Giving that permission may be the hardest thing I've ever had to do in my life.  I hope we gave her a happy life.  I guess that's the most you can ask for.

 

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        Posted 30 October 2015 - 06:29 PM

Please accept our deepest symphaties on the loss of Maggie. She certainly was a good looking dog. I am so sorry to hear about what they found inside of her. Yes, labs do eat strange things. We once spent a fortune getting a tennis ball that was swallowed whole by one of our labs removed from his stomach. How did he manage that? He crushed the tennis ball down, swallowed it and then it reinflated in his stomach.

 

Just remember you did the best you could for Maggie. It sounds (and looks) like she had a wonderful life with you and your family, and that's what counts the most!

 

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        Posted 05 November 2015 - 11:23 AM

We are very sadden by the loss of Maggie. There really are no words to say. Just know you and Maggie are in our prayers.

 

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